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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2016, 10:41:21 pm »
Looks good Phil especially after a spit and polish

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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2016, 12:01:32 pm »
The second temp sender may have gone to a seperate temperature gauge. When i fitted my gauge from autometer i had to put in a seperate sender
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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2016, 07:24:29 pm »
The sender with three bolts is an Otter switch.

Used in conjunction with a special choke cable which has a switch in line, it makes a contact when the engine warms up and lights a bulb in the dash to remind you to push the choke in.

Hope that helps.

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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2016, 08:10:28 pm »
Inside the engine looks good, carbon deposits are good in a 6 pot... means it hasn't been running too lean!! Might not need a rebore, I think mine did at just under 90k but it wasn't too badly worn. Only way is to measure it and see! I'll be following this thread with great interest! It all looks far too familiar!

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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2016, 11:51:38 pm »
Thanks chaps.

Samc: I went on to find a third temperature sender, which I think is for the Kenlowe fan that's currently fitted. I knew these two were original though, as they are referenced in the 'Green Bible' - forgot to mention that!

Robin: Got you - thanks. I hadn't seen this set-up before, as the 2.5 petrol in my Series III has only the one sender by the thermostat - the head doesn't have anywhere to accommodate an Otter switch, so I assume they must have been phased out by the time 90/110 production began.

Calum: Thanks, that's reassuring! I've had a read around and it seems that the brown exhaust valve deposits are also indicative of correct mixture, along with low oil consumption. All seems promising. I've completely stripped the head now, and the two inlet rocker shafts have what to me seems very little scoring. Valves look good too. I'll get some photos on fairly soon, though, as multiple opinions are always good!

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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2016, 05:52:12 am »
Right then, inlet valve gear. Rocker shafts are worse than I originally thought, but by no means terrible. There is scoring where each rocker sits - just about detectable by touch if I run a fingertip over them. Can't see anything untoward with any of the bushes. The dull sections on the shafts are where they are bolted into the head, so there are no moving parts to smooth the original surface:




Valves all came out in this sort of condition - no signs of pitting, just the usual carbon build-up:


This is only the second engine I've worked on, so I'm far from an 'expert' - any other opinions appreciated. Photos aren't brilliant, so apologies for that.


A few more general photos now. There are quite a few of these aftermarket 'Hella' lamps around - six in the back and one under the bonnet. I have a VW mate who reckons they're 1970s, though I'm unsure when they were fitted. The crappy wiring job was done somewhere around 1990 though, so then may be the best bet:


Ammeter and additional temperature gauge - don't look original, but correct me if I'm wrong:


Left-hand cupboard (allegedly a wardrobe?) with contents as found. Orange lead is for the mains socket:


Centre cupboard with shelving, plus free pans and camp blanket. A cutlery tray slides out at the top:


Cupboard door slots into notches to become a table. Only worked this out today:


Right-hand cupboard with water containers and washing-up bowl 'sink':


Some warping to the top plies of the cupboard nearest the rear door. No other apparent damage to units:


Main bench seat/bed. Needs a good clean before I decide what to do next. There are a few scruffy repairs and splits along the seams:


Original stove is absent - mark on the rear door card suggests it was the fold-down type:


Gap in the floor covering makes it look like a unit has also been removed - not convinced though, seems too small:



Back outside - last remnants of matting on the NSF wing-top. I recall seeing this mentioned as an optional extra in a Carawagon brochure extract in Classic Land Rover - can't find that issue at the moment so forget what they called it. Chequer-plate Mk1, essentially! The vehicle in the brochure photo was only three registration numbers away from mine, so must have been from the same batch sent for conversion:


Last thing - should a late 1968 IIA have screen washers? This set-up doesn't exactly look factory fitted, and the switch on the dash is of poor-quality bendy plastic, unlabelled too. Incidentally, they're one of the few things that still work - the others are the side lights, one tail light, and the horn:


I've ordered the first small batch of parts, to get the head together again. Will keep the updates coming.

Phil
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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2016, 05:19:07 pm »
Thanks for posting the pictures. Always interesting to see 'before' pictures. The wiring is very........special.

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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2016, 11:01:54 pm »
All looking great! Engine looks quite happy for a 6. Valves etc. all looks as you'd expect for a well looked after engine in my opinion. If you are struggling for engine parts give John Wearing a call - Rover P4 specialists who usually have new old stock and genuine parts. My Carawagon has Labcraft fluorescent tubes inside, but I've converted them to LED internally now. Pretty certain they're the originals. The rubber on the front was called 'decking rubber' by Searle. Usually goes hard and brittle like yours has done. Cupboard behind the driver is indeed the wardrobe - mine has a steel rail in the top to hang clothes. Your missing cupboard is where my cooker is - sometimes a stove with fridge underneath lives here.

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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2016, 02:42:36 am »
Thanks Calum - I'll re-assemble as-is then and see how it runs. As and when, I may well get some replacement parts in and store them until they're needed, as I suppose they're only going to get scarcer and more expensive.

If you don't mind, I'd like a good look over your own Carawagon at some point, as being of similar age to mine and having only one previous owner, it may well prove a good reference vehicle. I'll be aiming for as close to original spec as possible. Wiring in the back is of particular interest, as with the carnage that's going on in mine it may take some working out.

Phil
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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2016, 07:26:14 am »
The material on the bonnet is 'trac-mark' - a now obslete marine product.

I know where there is a source - in fact I have about a 10ft length of roll-width stuff in that colour...

If you want to replace it, give me a shout - there is a dwindling stock in a local boatyard to me, which I could get some...


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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2016, 10:19:46 am »
Thanks, that's interesting. Do you know if they have it it any other colours? I'm not a tremendous fan of this dull pink version! If it's not too expensive, I'd possibly have some.

Thanks,

Phil
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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2016, 10:33:46 am »
It used to be in a variety of colours - but hasn't been manufactured now for several years.

The stuff I have is the 'natural' colour - which is a light beige/brown colour. 

You can have it any colour you want - with some floor paint!

My boat has trac-mark covering beige - and it's painted grey.  You have to use a very tiny amount of paint, and work it in the pattern of the diamonds, so brush at a 45degree angle one way, then opposite.  You have to REALLY, REALLY scrub the paint out.  It's better to do two coats, where the first is patchy - than try and do one generous coat.

Otherwise the paint fills the pattern.

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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2016, 10:44:19 am »
Thanks - in that case, I'm definitely interested. If you're not too far away, I could come and collect - where about in the country is 'up the clump?'

Phil
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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2016, 06:09:02 pm »
You're more than welcome whenever! Not a million miles away but might be an event we're both at or something? Other than that you can come and compare/take pics or whatever. They do seem remarkably similar vehicles! Mine even had the exact same roof rack with the alloy box section which I had never seen on another (though have heard mention of a few times). You seem to have the 'Ergo-Contoured' seats too, a Searle option of which I've never seen another set other than mine (most just seem to have standard Land Rover seats). By sheer coincidence, mine didn't have any spot lights on but I added some and they are the same Lucas ones that you have fitted, as are the MAP hubs I fitted..

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Re: 1968 Series IIA Carawagon
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2016, 08:18:55 am »
That'd be very useful - much appreciated! I'm hoping to make it to the Christmas Do in Norfolk - if you're in the Carawagon then, then that should do it. If not, then as you say, you're not too far away.

Horace109, I've noticed from your post in the Christmas Do thread that you're in Norfolk yourself. If I do make it down, that would seem an opportune time to pick up some trac-mark - would that work for you?

Phil
1979 Series III 88" Hard-top - daily drive
1968 Series IIA 109" Carawagon - project