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Offline eskvalleyboy

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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2017, 08:18:01 am »
Thanks Fella.
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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2017, 04:22:21 pm »
Not much happening on the Freda front, but I have made a start on restoring my trailer.
This started out as most thing do as a quick I`ll weld the body up and it`ll be fine, ermm nope the numerous layer`s of paint and underseal merely covered the rust and a crack across the chassis above the axle mount.

20171102_161113[1] by Christopher Kelley, on Flickr

20171102_161057[1] by Christopher Kelley, on Flickr

Now it`s all welded, cleaned up and as you can see in a coat of primer. all good fun.
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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2018, 01:45:33 pm »
Well ey up, not much going on other than help Landylady aka Beth with her Series 3 "Brian" and accumulating bit to convert Freda into a Tdi at some point this year. oh and I`ve got the trailer back in one piece, hope everyone ok and bit late but Happy New Year  Celbrt
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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2018, 03:19:09 pm »
Hey up,

well freda became a tdi but then promptly spat her dummy out by destroying 3rd and 4th gear, so I`m thinking time to stop messing around and go down the lt77 route, so if anyone has any advice/experience to offer then please do.

hoping your all well.
Regards Chris.
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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2018, 07:59:53 am »
If you can find them - the stubby R380 fits neatly into a Series.
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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2018, 08:22:36 am »
Cheers fella, I already have lt77 from a defender and a lt77 and lt230 transfer from the disco that Freda`s 200tdi came from,
hopfully I can mate the defender box to the disco transfer.
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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2018, 04:16:24 pm »
How good was ther original gearbox before it broke? Is it really worth going though all the hassle of changing mounts, prop shafts, handbrakes etc when the money could be spent to rebuild the original gearbox and drop it straight back in?
Can I combine 24 volts, 9.00's and an Tdi!!!!

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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2018, 10:12:00 pm »
It was fully rebuild when I restored the truck, and this is fourth time she`s broke, last three times as a DI and this time as Tdi, each time I`ve rebuilt it myself on the kitchen floor as I`ve got no workshop nor facilities and cant afford to get it reconditioned professionally which is getting a bit silly now.

and modding chassis, props, brackets is fairly for me as a welder.

so after in fair bit of trawling forums, threads, blogs etc I`ve come to the decision that this set up will give me the longevity I need.
Again thoughts, ideas etc most welcome.
Regards Chris.
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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2018, 11:40:29 pm »
I've done it myself, it's quite a bit of work.

Even the disco transfer will be a bit short on 4.7 diffs. If you're not running 3.54 diffs (which don't give particularly nice low ratio), consider a 1.003:1 conversion kit. The ratio calculator on the Ashcroft site is a godsend. Other than that, any LT230 will mate to any five speed regardless of ratio. Beware of the spline wear issue, though. Early transfers didn't lubricate the splines on the input gear adequately, wearing the input gear and the output shaft of the main box. If not already fitted, get the upgraded cross drilled input gear, but the main box is quite possibly in a poor state already. Output flange wear on the oil seal lands, intermediate shaft wearing the casing causing a leak and diff gear wear are also common faults of the LT230 worth looking out for. The LT77, I know less about.

There's the ongoing "throw it in with full time 4wd" vs part time 4wd conversion debate too. Personally, I hated the feedback through the steering running with UJ's rather than CV's, but there are other members here who are happy with it and swear blind it's fine. The conversion can either be a kit, or a spot of heavy welding in the diff with a bearing fitted to support the front output shaft.

Its possible to mount the gearbox up without butchering the chassis by fabricating some mounting plates, though you'll have to scallop the bellhousing crossmember to clear the front prop. Handbrake can be adapted to suit the series linkage and the clutch is easy enough. You'll need a custom transmission tunnel and possibly mod the floor/seat box. You may already know all this, of course!

Given the work, I'd buy a spare series box to rebuild in the kitchen with quality parts and keep a rebuilt spare handy!

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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2018, 06:44:48 am »
Thanks for info fella you've given me a fair bit to mull over, Cheers Chris.
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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2018, 10:26:17 am »
No worries fella. My build thread here:

https://forums.lr4x4.com/topic/95691-series-3-109-39-v8-lt85-lt230-write-up/

Shout if you've got any questions :)

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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2018, 10:20:19 pm »
Thanks fella, your a star man.
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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2018, 10:39:21 pm »
Hey up folks,

ok I bite the bullet and went with the Lt77 and so far it`s preformed alright on the short local trips, all the gears work ok apart from reverse being growly and spitting out now and again.

I`ve gone with an xeng disc hand brake that I`ve modded to fit and p38 props with the rear one shortened by 1/4"

I`ll chuck some pics up if folk are interested later on

Cheers Chris

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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2018, 11:00:00 pm »
Well done
All the right bits, but not necessarily in the right order.

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Re: 1962 - 2a - 109" "Freda"
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2018, 05:14:15 pm »
Glad to hear it's worked out!