Thank you gent's, I'm still fixing typo mistakes from my useless internet service yesterday LOL if the net played the game instead of whatever it was doing, I would have added more images and details but I was getting the tray bits (s**t's) with it anyway I'm off to a compulsory CPR lecture this morning,cheers Dennis
ps hopefully this will be the last time I will have to attend, I'll have to mix with the morning rush hour of traffic in Newcastle gggrrr.